Fourth order tensor

ramdas chennamsetti's picture

Hi all,

I have a fundamental question on Tensors. The length of a vector (firts order tensor) is independent of the reference co-ordinate system. In case of second order tensor (stress/strain), the invariants (I1, I2, I3) are independent of the co-ordinate system.

If I consider 4th order tensor (of course 3rd order also), say Cijkl, what parameters are constant? (Like length in vector and invariants in second order tensors).

Thanks in advance,

- Ramdas


Temesgen Markos's picture

Invariants of a fourth order tensor

Hi Ramadas,

One straight forward way of producing invariants is taking contractions until all the indices become dummy. For a second order tensor T_{ij}, for example, you can do one contraction T_{ii} and you get the first invariant. Similary if you take the square T^2_{ik} = T_{ij}T_{jk} and take a contraction T_{ij}T_{ji} you get the trace of the square, which is another invariant. Do the same thing to fourth order tensors. There are more ways to contract a fourth order tensor. C_{ijij}, C_{iijj}, C_{ijji}, C_{iiii} are the ones I can think of. Ofcourse you can take powers of the tensor and do contractions to get more. The contraction is basically multiplication by the kronecker delta. You can also think of multiplication by the Levi-civita symbol. For example, det(T) = 1/6e_{ijk}e_{pqr}T_{ip}T_{jq}T_{kr}.

This is true if you have orthonormal basis. Otherwise use the appropriate definitions, for example, of the Kronecker delta and follow the same procedure.


ramdas chennamsetti's picture

Good book

Hi Markos,

Thank you. Could you please suggest me some good book on this topic?

Thankk you,

- Ramdas 


Temesgen Markos's picture

To Ramdas

Hi Ramdas,

I don't know a book which specifically deals with tensor invariants.  As far as tensor analysis is concerned, my favourite is the first chapter from Ogden's book "Nonlinear Elastic Deformations". The later chapters touch on invariance, symmetry etc from the perspective of elasticity in general and Green elasticity in particular. 


Arash_Yavari's picture

Re: Fourth order tensor

Dear Ramdas:

What you're looking for is called an integrity basis. Invariance under a change of coordinates is equivalent to invariance under SO(3) (the orientation preserving subgroup of O(3)). Then you want to see what polynomial functions of your fourth-order tensor are invariant under the action of this group. In the case of isotropic tensor functions, one can reduce the dependency of the function of interest to an irreducible basis invariants. As you mentioned, for second-order tensors there are three  principal invariants. Equivalently you can rewrite these in terms of basic invariants. Denoting your second-order tensor by A, these are traces of A, A^2=A.A, and A^3=A.A.A. In the case of fourth-order tensors there are six basic (and principal) invariants. Denoting the fourth order tensor by C, these are traces of C^i, i=1,...,6.

Look at the following short paper: J. Betten, Integrity basis for a second-order and a fourth-order tensor, International journal of mathematics and mathematical sciences 5(1), 87-96, 1982.

Regards,
Arash 


ramdas chennamsetti's picture

Dear Arash, It looks I

Dear Arash,

It looks I need to understand more on Tensors. I went through which is required for stress and strain analysis. I downloaded that paper and go through. It looks it is not sufficient.

Could you please suggest some good book exclusively on 'Tensors'?

With regards,

- Ramdas 


Arash_Yavari's picture

Re: books on tensors

Dear Ramadas:

Take a look at the following book: Vector and Tensor Analysis with Applications by A.I. Borisenko and I.E. Tarapov. This should be a good book to start with.

Regards,
Arash


ramdas chennamsetti's picture

Thank you

Hi Arash and Markos,

Thank you very much for your suggestions. I will go through.

With regards,

- Ramdas


Re: tensor book

The best introductory text I've seen so far is

 A brief on tensor analysis by James G. Simmonds

-- Biswajit 

 


ramdas chennamsetti's picture

Soft copy

Hi Biswajit Sir,

Just now I have seen that book in Google books. Nice one.Do you have soft copy of this? If so, could you please share?

With regards,

- Ramdas


Re: Soft copy

Hi Ramdas,

I don't have a soft copy of the book.  I don't think a legal soft copy exists *cough*rapidshare*cough*.  A good alternative is Prof. Brannon's detailed notes.   

I haven't been knighted yet; so the "Sir" upadhi isn't really necessary :)

-- Biswajit 

 


Arun Krishnan's picture

Some links on tensor analysis

Hi all,

Nice discussion going on here. Here's my 5 cents. These are a few links on tensor analysis (all of them introductory) which I found useful when I was learning about tensors. 

1) (NASA's brief introductory guide) http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/Numbers/Math/documents/Tensors_TM200221...

2) (Ruslan Sharipov) http://arxiv.org/abs/math.HO/0403252

3) (Joakim Strandberg) http://medlem.spray.se/gorgelo/tensors.pdf

-Arun


One more reference

 One more useful reference by R M Brannon:

http://www.mech.utah.edu/~brannon/public/Tensors.pdf


ramdas chennamsetti's picture

Thank you all!!!

Than you Biswajit, Arun and Sivakumar.

With regards,

- Ramdas


RE: Fourth order tensor

Dear Ramdas

You may be interested in the following paper on 4th order tensors and their manipulations in continuum mechanics:

 "Fourth-order tensors - tensor differentiation with applications to continuum mechanics. Part I: Classical tensor analysis"  by O. Kintzel, Y. Baar.

Besides that I would suggest you to have some concepts of symmetric gruops and tensor products also. You may like to read:

"Algebra" by Artin

 Thanks


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